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5 Reasons Why We’re Downsizing Our Home

We’re Downsizing Our Home

We’ve lived in Denver, Philly, Sitges, Spain and Las Vegas. Now, we’re moving to Toledo OH. Here’s why we’re downsizing our home (and lives). Start your journey to financial independence by getting rid of any credit card debt with the free, 7-Step Credit Card Debt Slasher.

Why the heck would we downsize our home?

Listen to the 5 reasons we’re downsizing our home and lives:

Topics Covered

  • 5 reasons why we’re downsizing our home and moving to Toledo, Ohio
  • The difference between the cost of living in Las Vegas vs. Toledo
  • How house hacking will reduce our housing expenses from 50% of our income to 15%
  • The 3 prongs of financial independence (stock market, small business and real estate income)
  • Why we’re getting into real estate investing for cashflow rather than appreciation
  • How increasing our personal cashflow gives us the freedom to move abroad in 2025 should we so choose
  • How Toledo is more conducive to the lifestyle we want than Las Vegas
  • Our 3 primary values around retirement, travel and giving back to the queer community
  • How we can support the up-and-coming LGBTQ+ community in Toledo



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We’re David and John Auten-Schneider, the Debt Free Guys ( and hosts of the Queer Money® podcast. We help queer people (and allies) live fabulously not fabulously broke by helping them 1) pay off credit card debt, 2) become part- or full-time entrepreneurs and 3) save and invest for retirement.

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